Speaker 1: 0:20

Thank you, maybe not at a holiday dinner. Because, it's not a holiday, right.

Speaker 2: 0:24

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Speaker 1: 0:54

To get to eight, to work like this for one, three hours off, eat breakfast with her on WhatsApp and start again at four o'clock Meetings. Tell me, tell me, tell me.

Speaker 2: 1:07

And today my goal is to be free. I don't need much money, I need freedom. So this is my question now how does it relate to? You told me that you're really in the minimalism section, yes. So how does it relate to this thing? Like you're taking down your own burden because you've there's such a minimalism thing and you're now like on it or that it was the opposite like you just can't breathe, you feel like you need to take it down and then you realize that Wait, what are we talking about?

Speaker 1: 1:38

my crisis from Thailand? We started it wasn't our conversation.

Speaker 2: 1:42

Crisis in Thailand is is worth the start.

Speaker 1: 1:46

Yeah, the hashtag is worth the start. The truth is that, when it comes to minimalism, I have a story from Nepal. I really remembered it when we talked about minimalism. What I had in Nepal it was like 5-6 years ago it was the first time that I understood that we don't need much. When I was in Nepal, I went on a trip with a backpack full of things clothes, clothes, stuff, this, this, this, this. I was in Nepal, no doubt. Oh my God, oh my God, a backpack. That was a backpack. No backpack. Okay, what are you doing? The joy of being in a holiday no backpack. And the level of like. What I had on my small backpack were sports shoes from somewhere I didn't have a place, sports shoes, and that's it.

Speaker 1: 2:32

Like it went to a different place and now, at the same point in time, I don't know where it is, no mochila. I don't know where it is. They don't know where to tell me it will come it. When will it arrive? What's going on? I had nothing With the clothes I was wearing which was like A travel ticket, travel shoes. I had sports shoes. I didn't even have any shoes like on such a level, and for three days we waited for the mochila, we looked for it, and so on. So, yes, I lived my life. In the end, I went and bought a shirt with a Buddha painting. I bought a ticket, a sh, a Buddha painting. I bought a. I need all of this. Everything is good.

Speaker 2: 3:20

I had two of those.

Speaker 1: 3:21

Yes, because if you have these things, it's a lot of things to take care of, to sort everything out and to make sure that everything is there and that they don't take away from me. Wow, it reminds me of another experience from Thailand. I don't know how much it's related, but we'll talk about the crisis maybe. But one of the things that I most remember from Thailand, one of the things that I remember the most from Thailand, one of the experiences and I really consider it an experience was one morning when I went out to run. I went out to run. It was also the first morning I went out.

Speaker 1: 3:53

I was in a kind of retreat where you're very tired and with people and there's a retreat, and then the first morning I slept alone and already out of this situation. So I went out to run. I came back and I said to myself well, before I go to eat, I'll jump to the sea for a second, because the sea was really on the door of my room. For a second. I sit in the sea five minutes like chick-chick and I move. I only took a book and a long.

Speaker 1: 4:19

I said I won't take a phone For five minutes. What do I need? A? I don't take a phone. I'm like five minutes. What do I need A book and a long A window. And I sat on the beach and I said to myself and not even an hour. And I said, you know, I'm not in a hurry, I don't have like. I could stay here as long as I want, so I don't need an hour. And I was there only with a book and a long and suddenly this feeling, first of all is it's been a long time since I've been there, it's like you're chilling in the sea.

Speaker 1: 4:57

You're not fully there. You're not showing yes. It's the opposite of mindfulness and when I was there it was really three hours. I didn't know what hour it was. I said I'll come back in a minute. In three hours I was in the't with a phone or a phone connection or something.

Speaker 2: 5:31

Think about what to do, what's going to happen, what will happen, money, this customers, things, life you know, there's a situation where a lot of people maybe even hear the conversation and say to themselves, like I do it every day.

Speaker 1: 5:44

But like Three hours without a phone. No, I don't who does it?

Speaker 2: 5:49

I don't know, but I say like I'm very much in line with what you're saying. I, like ever since I was a mother, I had to be with the kids so I wouldn't be on the phone. The first time I bought a handkerchief it was for me. I don't believe I bought a swimsuit end of the time, not at the end, when I was about to be at the beach.

Speaker 1: 6:26

I also went to. There was also a massage on the beach. I said, come on, I'm going to the massage, I'm tired. How did it pay?

Speaker 2: 6:32

So I told her I'm going to the room to bring the money later because it was all about that kind of review. I understand, yes, so it was really, and then you had some kind of a crisis.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Yes, in general, thailand was very. I flew there in a crisis and it really made me think about what I want for my life. I flew to Thailand, which I really crashed. Really. I was at a point in time business dropped a lot in October we're talking about now. Yes, it was now.

Speaker 1: 7:11

In October things dropped a bit. People don't think about a drop in the workload when the world is so chaotic and it was a lot of stress and, for my joy, I didn't know anyone who really died that day or was seriously injured. So I told myself there's no reason to get hurt. It's okay. Now the state is going through something terrible, but I felt like I had no reason to get hurt. Everything's fine.

Speaker 1: 7:43

And at the end, everyone came with their story, like after a week and a half two weeks, that such people were in the dark, food and in the difficulties Wow, and you're dealing with 40, 50, 60 people who are having a hard time and you also feel that, first of all, I need to keep working, understand how I do it in a way that is pleasant and pleasant to the situation on the one hand, but on the other hand, I need work. I already had a job. Back then, noa worked for me, so I, she still works for me, and you want to finally get a job, and you want to get a job for yourself, because you understand that the state doesn't allow that, and everything together and you're like all the time with such an effort and in December things started to suddenly improve in terms of work and suddenly a wave of people came in, A wave of people. A wave of people, a wave of people like the psychologists, who I think psychologists didn't have a drop in work at any point, but, yes, a wave of people.

Speaker 2: 8:52

But like when you said emotional eating, it was so interesting for me, like it's like psychologically it's amazing In this huge crisis. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1: 9:04

Wow, yes, really, In this huge crisis. Yes, yes, yes, Wow, yes, really A lot of people. I think there were weeks when I entered six new people at once, and every process is a process. It's a person. It's not like it's not easy to start a process. It's to get to know a person, to get to know him, his weaknesses, his habits, what he likes, what he doesn't like. To remember everything his blood tests, what he's eating, what he's not eating, to remember everything his blood tests, on the support, on WhatsApp.

Speaker 2: 9:26

It's not the meetings it's the support on the phone and the spirit.

Speaker 1: 9:29

Yes, there's a spirit and in December there was just such a shock of people that I and again I from October in this feeling that I had to hold myself and be for others because nothing happened to me and I'm fine, my family is fine, I have no reason to break up. But something big is happening. And I did break up inside and when I really felt that I was going, that I was coming to work every day and I was sad and I'm sitting here and I'm talking to people and everything is fine, I'm with them, and I just go back home and I'm sad and I don't come to do anything. I don't come out and I doesn't come to talk and doesn't come to do anything, she comes to sit at home and doesn't do anything.

Speaker 1: 10:05

She feels like she's wet inside Yo. And then and it's a scene because you know it's a funny one that came up to me around that time and I said how is it that you're always so happy?

Speaker 2: 10:19

And I was like that was after December.

Speaker 1: 10:20

We said that was in December.

Speaker 2: 10:22

Yes, when you're now in a panic, excuse me, and you come and.

Speaker 1: 10:26

In a panic, in a panic, and you're drunk, I'm full, I'm very drunk, yes, and she says how you are.

Speaker 2: 10:32

It's a clip, the last of the year, really Okay.

Speaker 1: 10:40

And then one day I sat in a conference and and I just a huge amount of respect in the church, and then I see someone writing like this Hi girls, I'm looking for a retreat in Thailand Now. I never thought I would go to Thailand. What does it mean to me, to this country of the earth, to the full moon, and not for me?

Speaker 2: 10:52

Oh wow, I never thought I would go to Thailand.

Speaker 1: 10:57

So I also went to the same've recorded this yes, continue. So then I said I looked at her and everything was so wonderland, this place is so beautiful and I open. What is wonderland? I open. I look at that moment. I said I'm flying to Thailand Now, in two weeks. What do you mean? Like that? Then I said you're looking at me, normally not being so impulsive for a. What does that mean?

Speaker 1: 11:37

I was working with really helpful people, all the patients and you know, at the time I was in the medical field, I was really helpful and everyone was also very, everyone was also very optimistic, which was really fun, because the patients were really like, you know, and everything was good.

Speaker 2: 11:52

And.

Speaker 1: 11:52

I flew for two weeks without work.

Speaker 2: 11:56

Like I flew for three weeks and within two weeks, a complete flight.

Speaker 1: 11:59

It was amazing, because that's what you did, and divide your money to so many people, or that you have other goals Freedom, relationships, if it's a relationship, if it's a relationship of friends, of friends that I didn't have time for either and suddenly I did a shift and said I don't need a lot of money. Let's say, I need more freedom. And I made really big changes there and in Thailand, I decided that I wouldn't take any more new medications you don't, I don't but it's a sign yes, there are the patients that work with me, that Aviyah joined after me and Eden joined after me.

Speaker 1: 12:52

Yes, and they don't help me with the clinic and they don't treat me in the one-on-one operation and I do the work of groups and clinics.

Speaker 2: 13:00

Amazing. So it is a very minimalistic process. This is a shift of putting in more and more and more Right, and also the pressure to do it Right, because I recognize it as someone who, like I, want to tell you, even until I became a mother, I couldn't say no to anything, maybe out of jealousy, maybe out of lack of pleasure. Mainly, I think just yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, even as an independent, if I don't put in um.

Speaker 2: 13:46

You said something else that you don't need more money, you need more freedom. Right, and that's something that I really need to emphasize, because the studies even talk about this that the moment I I forgot exactly what it was. It's a study that I really entered into five years ago, but it's super interesting that the moment you pass, it was in the United States, so in dollars the 100,000 or even less I don't remember exactly a dollar the money becomes insignificant in terms of wealth. With an F yes, so it means the moment you get to the situation even no, it was much less than maybe 50,000, I'll check it. But the thing is that there is this stage where, like if you don't know where you're going to, live, of course, if you have to deal with survival.

Speaker 1: 14:53

It's different.

Speaker 2: 14:53

If you have to deal with survival, but as soon as you're comfortable in life. Yes, so every shekel or dollar beyond comfort, it doesn't necessarily add to wealth. With an alpha Right, maybe it's certain that it adds to other things Exactly, but not to wealth, right. So I come and I say, okay, how can we take this amazing thing of understanding that prosperity is not the essence of life, the story with the fact that you arrived and three days were without all your things yes, that's right. And then you tell me that the things arrived. I felt like, oh man, what did I?

Speaker 1: 15:39

do with all this.

Speaker 2: 15:40

I was just feeling gravity, the when you said they were coming, I was like, oh, now I have to carry it. I really imagined the. So how can we take this whole concept to other places of our well-being, even on the health level, nutrition, on the level of sport? And it comes to my mind that I need help with my closet, you know that I really, in terms of closets, I really release objects.

Speaker 1: 16:16

What is it in terms of ease? Lately? I saw some kind of a challenge not long ago on Netflix. I feel like we're not on a diet today at all. Not on a diet, and not on training.

Speaker 2: 16:28

Maybe we'll get to some kind of a. I really have something to say about this. But first tell me about Aaron, because I really want to know, even though I'm good at releasing objects. But let's say, the moment I get to a situation like this, I'm wearing it, but I still have a salary, but you're wearing all of your Aaron's salary. I'm currently in a situation of a little bit.

Speaker 1: 16:48

Yes, I really release If you're wearing all of Aaron's then yes, but most of us don't wear all of Aaron's.

Speaker 2: 16:52

I'm really releasing.

Speaker 1: 16:54

What they said in this movie. It was a movie about minimalism and that I don't care. I won't get into that, but they said that they do a challenge. Ah, chronic minimalism. Right, there's something I'll say. Yes, they said they gave a challenge that you release a number of objects every day for a month, according to the number of the day. On the first day, one object. On the second day, two objects. On the third day, three objects, and so on until you reach 30.

Speaker 2: 17:20

Nice, I started doing that.

Speaker 1: 18:06

I wasn't Nice. I don't know what I'm doing with this medal. After money, I worked in high tech in a big company and I made more money, and more money, and more money, and I worked for a few hours and so on, and my mother passed away and she lived close to me and I didn out all sorts of things there were boxes of things and things, and then under her bed I took out a closet that was closed, really good, with cello tapes and that, and I opened the cello tapes to see what was going on there.

Speaker 1: 18:38

And under the cello tapes, under all this, when she opened, there were full of things that he wrote as a child his documents, his documents and so on. And then he says, like at the first moment I got very excited and said, yo, how beautiful she kept it all these years. And then in a second he said, wait, but it was like closed in cello tapes, in a closet under her bed. Like, is it really relevant, these documents that keep the memories that created this thing and the memories that maybe he didn't create with his mother because he was busy making more money to buy more items? Yes, and he said, like at that moment I realized that these aren't the documents, these are the memories, and the memories remain. Yes, yes, yes. And it's not that she opened these documents and looked at them. It was so tightly closed and she probably didn't look at it.

Speaker 2: 19:23

Right right, that's what I thought that she actually didn't look at it either, exactly, and it's even really sad, because maybe it entered into a place like that where she felt like she didn't see him much and that's how she wanted to protect him. It's impossible to know, it's impossible to know, but it made me feel like a romantic movie of pain and tears. Yes, yes, you can't tell. There's this thing. I'm very minimalist in my practices Because I don't have time to sleep most of the day. Not that I'm different from anyone, it's just that I get up at 5 in the morning and I have Every day.

Speaker 1: 20:10

Look there are days, you have a 5-day-work-out.

Speaker 2: 20:13

No, no, no. There are days when I don't sleep at all, especially because I have babies. So no, like if I don't know what happens. No, when I didn't have children, I would wake up at 5 in the morning, yes, but now it's more. Now I don't feel like waking up at 5 in the morning, but it happens. So I wake up and then I have a little dog, and then after that another dog joins and there's the dog and I also try to do something very non-mindful and put some work on the phone, and then I somehow maybe between customers I start, of course, with customers and with work and between all of these things, I'm going to go into treatment and I'm continuing with the treatment and then I'm going to add enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough to the top of the blood sugar level, and that's the situation.

Speaker 2: 21:48

Yes, and there are days when what I have is a quarter of an hour. So I'm going to do a quarter of an hour of training, but I'm probably also going to increase the intensity a lot and there are days when I physically can't increase the intensity. So I'm going to do a Pilates training of a quarter of an hour where I feel like I'm moving and creating. I do Pilates training for 15 minutes which I feel I move and create a little bit of a movement. But what's interesting in the studies, the specific ones of aerobics, which are a combination of a set of sprint interval training. So we're taking only the example of sprint interval training. So it's just we're taking the example of Roby. Okay, sprinting is really fast, everything is short, it's super intense and we continue with today. On the other hand, the guys who are more prone to a bit more moderate in terms of how fast it's, longer and less intense in terms of breathing and breathing, and find that both and the time you perform the training.

Speaker 2: 23:04

The group of moderate of the C-Bullet perform it twice from the group of the C-Bullet Twice what the time, the length of the cibolet. They did it twice from the set. Twice what the time, the duration of the training. That is, if they trained for half an hour, they trained for a quarter of an hour. But both groups got exactly the same results. And that to me, wow, it's really wow. It's wow. I'm talking about the scale was VO2 max. Vo2 max is actually the ability of the body to give as much heat to the muscles as possible to train. So they managed to do it in a quarter of an hour. But you can't work on the body. It really needs to be intense. 15 minutes, yes, it can't be 15 minutes, but I went like this yes, it won't work Right, right, right, so you need to, but I think it's really important to say this and it's really a blessing that you say I'm a mother to two children.

Speaker 1: 24:08

I do need to practice and it's something, it's a voice that I, as a non-mother, sometimes a little. I don't come to people who are parents and tell them listen, you can find time, even though I believe in it that you can, because throughout my life, regardless of what age I was, when I was a child, they told me in kindergarten you won't have time In. No, no, no. I'll tell you more than that.

Speaker 2: 24:51

When I don't have time and I'm really like with the kids up from morning to night, and that's something that happens sometimes on vacations okay. So they turn to the pills and they're really, really enjoying it and I think that's the most intensive training, that I eventually turn my kids to pills, to the, and I'm like and I'm in a crazy mood and she's laughing and he's laughing and I'm like, okay, they had fun. I suffered in the crazy. I entered my training, I did it no matter what, and that's minimalistic in levels, exactly.

Speaker 1: 25:44

Boom. Sometimes people feel that like either they do it or it's like going to the bathroom and they start to dress and that and shoes and go and get dressed and do a half-day or nothing.

Speaker 2: 25:56

Right, there's no middle, right, but there's really a lot of middle. There's a lot of middle. There's a lot of middle because our body, after all, the bathroom is a new thing, right, it's really new, like sometimes people just were always going crazy, right, they needed to go from place to place. They were like listen to me. There are now robots cleaning the house Like it's Leave it today.

Speaker 1: 26:22

everything since the corona is on Zoom, Everything is on Zoom Also this Right right. People go to the supermarket. They don't go to the supermarket, they go to the online grocery store.

Speaker 2: 26:30

They come to the diet they don't come to the diet. I go to the supermarket. They open the computer. No, I go to the online grocery store Like everyone else. Yes, yes, they open the diet computer.

Speaker 1: 26:35

Right, everything, everything. Their friends are already on WhatsApp. People don't meet.

Speaker 2: 26:46

Friends on WhatsApp with other people.

Speaker 1: 26:48

No, people don't have enough time on a daily basis, so you need to. So let's give some tips, maybe on how you can increase the movement. I will say that many times for my patients. I am very. Again, I try to find this gap with them, this one. It doesn't have to be a treatment at all, but it can be a movement. For example, I tell a lot of people that say no, I work full hours and this and that, okay, instead of doing a simple break with a friend that you sit with, you should do a round. When I was in the school I'm a student so maybe I won't think about it but I had a friend that we were stuck in breaks. So let's do a round of NEET. We would say it's a non-exercise activity like a non-exercise activity.

Speaker 1: 27:32

So if you do a workout like 10 minutes before you go to bed, then do it too. And also, many times I tell people how come you, before you go home, you go back from work with your shoes, with your? You're not following, you don't come with your shoes to work, you're not even connected to me, but with your shoes with your clothes everything.

Speaker 1: 27:46

Call your mom, your friend for a quarter of an hour. Like to do a second scan before you go home? You add a quarter of an hour of rest. Everything's good Like it doesn't have to be an intense training. If it's not the day you're trying to go, what else? Give us more tips.

Speaker 2: 28:01

I just have to say that the fact that you asked Nita is a really important thing, because it's a very, very, very game changer.

Speaker 2: 28:09

It can even be at the level of and that happens to me a lot I'm like, I'm always nervous, I'm like, and only that is super, super important. But the thing that's really the worst in my eyes in the world is just not sleeping all day, and that's what a lot of us do all day, right? So just taking these moments, okay, and just for a second, moving them to a position people who just work in a process it's super slow motion. By the way, it's on the screen like this and work.

Speaker 2: 28:48

Yes, it's part of the society.

Speaker 1: 28:50

It's amazing to me, it's, and they work.

Speaker 2: 28:50

Yes, it's part of the companies. It's amazing in my eyes. It's amazing. You have to use it. It has to be a go-to. It won't tire you, you won't get tired of it, but just not to sit all day, 12 hours a day. I'm glad I was here. That's the next thing.

Speaker 1: 29:08

That's the next thing. Also, taking a dog, by the way, dogs, really, people who have a dog they have to be active. I always tell them that, Like you can cancel a training, you can wake up in the morning and say, oh, I'm sick, I'm not going to training, the dog doesn't care, the dog has pee. You're sick, you're not sick.

Speaker 2: 29:25

Hot cold, Do you?

Speaker 1: 29:26

have a dog? I don't have a dog, I have a dog? I had one but it was small Hot, cold, rain, sun, birds it doesn't matter A dog needs a puppy.

Speaker 2: 29:35

You're going to do a 10-minute shoot. It's amazing.

Speaker 1: 29:38

A dog is amazing for many reasons, but also for this and to live in Tel Aviv on a third floor without a roof?

Speaker 2: 29:58

I we still sometimes. She's super old, okay, she's a widow and she lived in the fifth floor Without a roof.

Speaker 2: 30:07

Without a roof. But all the owners of thewives wanted to raise the property, the property. So they all said we need to put a ladder in. It was not possible, it was forbidden to put a ladder in. Here she says also because it was important for her to keep the wood the wood as it is, and also in no way because she felt like I'm talking about someone who is really old, 80 plus, and she doesn't agree to get to the point where maybe something will take the process of the steps away from her.

Speaker 1: 30:43

Listen to me. I think it's genius that she saw it like that.

Speaker 2: 30:46

She's a minimalist person with two strong legs on the ground and one of the strongest people I've ever met. Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 1: 30:59

The truth is now that I think about it. Think about it. A person goes to his home at least twice a day. Say it's five floors, it's ten floors. She goes to a day and she does it every day and it's just a habit that he keeps her strong. And if now they put her on a leash, boom In a second. You're lowering her performance.

Speaker 2: 31:14

And she's so nice. It's crazy that she saw it. And she's so nice. She's also a stopper. It's not easy. She's a stopper and I would say to her can I help you?

Speaker 1: 31:25

No, no, I just look at her Wow, really, what a nice girl. So please the truth. Wow, she said wow, tell me, are you getting used to it? The answer is yes.

Speaker 1: 32:02

I told her listen, the truth is that I ran like 16 kilometers so I came ready from home. But no, you should have told her yes, no, but I think the point is significant. Regal talked about it here and it might not be the topic of the episode, but it's important that already in our ages I'm 31, an employment, pension and all that, and to talk about an 80-year-old is amazing but also in our age here there's a difference.

Speaker 1: 32:25

People don't see it like that, but it's a decrease in employment. A person who comes to me after he's climbed three floors as if he's now holding a heart attack and he's 30, it's not cool.

Speaker 2: 32:35

No, no. Why do people think it's cool?

Speaker 1: 32:37

It's not cool, not cool, you climbed on your foot.

Speaker 2: 32:39

I'm a student. No, it's not cool at all here.

Speaker 1: 32:43

the clinic that we sat in is on the sixth floor and, as a student, I don't know make everyone climb on my foot. Why don't you prove?

Speaker 2: 32:49

it to me. I'm just looking for the ladder and I'm like, okay, okay, it's hard to find the stairs, but there are stairs here.

Speaker 1: 32:57

Okay, I climb on my foot and my patients climb on their feet. They know that. If I, I also listen. If I hear outside that it says 6th floor and they come, I'll ask them I why don't you walk?

Speaker 2: 33:10

You can also test me, I'll test you next month, please test me too. I'll do it. Tell me there's a story that I feel like we've really gone deep into minimalism and yet I want to ask you because at the end of the day, you're my fan, okay what do you think about minimalism and food? Because when I think about minimalism and food today, in 2024, I think about a lot of food, too much of everything. A lot, a lot, a lot of food. Where do you put minimalism?

Speaker 1: 33:51

It's hard.

Speaker 2: 33:51

Minimalism doesn't exist anymoreilo minimalism lo kayam Kvar Deu u lo kayam U lo kayam Gam etzele gam lumi sheen kesef Nakhon Advarein shekilo beitsem zolim yoter ze advarein sheim shefa shel kaloryot lamasal.

Speaker 1: 34:08

Nakhon Kodem kol, for example. Right, first of all right, but let's start for a moment from the simple. The example that I like the most to give people in the clinic is to tell them think about 20 years ago when you were going to eat outside. What would you eat? What was it? Pizza, hamburger and toast, that's it. What else? Right? Today you leave the clinic, you're here in Dissinghof, you go from one side to the other. You meet Mochi, thai food, japanese food, steamy food, special golden gliders, everything.

Speaker 1: 34:45

You really have so many types of food, like types of food, and then, people come and tell me but I haven't eaten at this restaurant for a long time, so I'm fine. But wait, there are so many restaurants Like every day, you can say that I haven't eaten pizza for a long time, so I'm fine. But then tomorrow I haven't eaten hamburger, so I'm fine. And then two days later I haven't eaten.

Speaker 2: 35:03

I don't remember.

Speaker 1: 35:04

Thai food, israeli food and it's a very and the new restaurant will be opened. That's a waste and there are so many types of food and human beings. They're not good at it. They really see it as like what's not good Are we talking about?

Speaker 2: 35:19

We're not, we're not.

Speaker 1: 35:20

Our nature is when there's a lot of food to eat, a lot of food, of course. And we see in research, for example, that if now you take, just for the sake of it, one, one type of food let's say a buffet and we put one type of food or I put on you, let's say a kind of dessert, let's say rice, or if there's rice pasta and fries in the rice pasta fries, a person will choose to eat without me reducing the amount to more. He will eat more calories because there's both and both and I want everything compared to if there was only rice. So it's hard for us because we're so rich and so many types of bread and bread to eat on the street and there's always something else we haven't tried. And sometimes you have to say I'm not going to do it, it's all good, I don't have to do everything Right.

Speaker 2: 36:06

It's really all good, everything's fine. It's like practicing practice. Our old brain of, like, how many hours a day will I eat Right, like yes, in a video, this good voice is super important. It's a brain training.

Speaker 1: 36:28

What I often say to people at big events and holidays and this is what we call holidays now. So when you come to the holiday, first of all look at all the abundance and ask yourself what do I really want to eat and what not? We have a rule to put everything on one side. For example, white rice it's often on the table on every meal. It's true that you eat it almost every day, so maybe on a holiday meal? No, because it's on the table at every meal. Is it true that you eat it almost every day, so maybe not at a holiday dinner.

Speaker 1: 36:54

Because it's not heavy Because it's not heavy I had it yesterday and the day after but let's say, maybe the very special pashida that your aunt made for you. It's okay so to ask what really comes to me and I don't put a little bit of everything.

Speaker 2: 37:07

I don't need a little bit of everything. Wow, wow, that's the sentence you hear, right? Yes, a little bit of everything.

Speaker 1: 37:14

Why everything? Even in the, I got like I don't know a fever. I don't know what to do. There was everything there, including Israeli food, even Like really food of all kinds.

Speaker 1: 37:37

There was really hummus and falafel breakfast. What's going on? There were so many kinds. I had a hard time concentrating, but in the end I told myself, like wait, wait, look, you need to like now this. You eat it in the morning usually. It usually delicious and no, I really tried to take what I wanted. I did find myself there in an experience where I ate too much because it's hard to be in front of a buffet and it's something you have to practice and the setting in the evening is nice and I did find myself eating more than I wanted. But in terms of types, I said to myself I don't need to eat everything.

Speaker 2: 38:17

Really, it's not possible for me to do everything, but I tried to focus on things that I really really want. I'll tell you one more thing to wrap up, because we were really not minimalistic today.

Speaker 1: 38:29

Wow, in words, I'm the least there is.

Speaker 2: 38:31

No, but I have to. No, but we're talking about things. We're so alive in this world of wealth that it's a wrong thing. Yes, but I have to say that, as a mother, there are two sides. There's the side that I'm not enough to eat. I now have to go, which is the other side. And then there's the other side. I ate a little. My daughter left everything. Oh Now, the old brain Like that.

Speaker 1: 39:04

You can't leave it, you can't Wow, this is a topic for a full conversation now, don't open it.

Speaker 2: 39:09

So that's it, please. So that's for next time. But really it's really about to train the brain against poverty In everything we are built like this, that in order to survive we need poverty. But really just remembering that it's the old brain, just remembering it, is very, very helpful.

Speaker 1: 39:35

Yes, very significant how, as if, our evolutionary mechanisms, which are very old, how they function today in a world that is much more advanced. This is wow, what a thing We'll get to it.

Speaker 2: 39:53

Wow, we really.

Speaker 1: 39:53

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